Aotop electronic industrial just do not deal with this company unless you have money to throw in the gutter or send it to me! In some trade websites they claim the company was setup in 1995 and in others it was setup in 1998 and they have a turnover of $50m usd!!! All started back in june 2006. This company is just a total scam from the point you contact them (I only found out later). There is a david liu and a ted zhang. Both of them are compulsive liars. Made me believe they are a factory (I even went there in shenzhen) they had all the office taken care of. Mr david took me there and above the factory in the small office and the deal was done. After I had placed a order of 23,000us$ I ordered 75pcs of car dvd players 50pcs of single din and 25pcs of double din. All the goods arrived in begining of july 2006 and within a few weeks I started to sell them. I found a good customer whom would purchase 12pcs of single din systems a week and all this was whilst I was advertising and selling on ebay. Whilst selling on ebay the 2 din systems were selling well at a good price and the single dins were doing well in wholesale and I was making money. In october 2006 I got a call from my customer and told me a long list of problems and as the month filtered by more and more stock would return. I contacted david and he told me to send them to him via a agent in hongkong, (my cost £150 for 40 single din pcs). I travelled to manchester uk from my home town 1 hr away and got them ready for delivery. I advised david and he told me to send them to shenzhen instead which meant that another trip to manchester to collect the goods and then re-deliver them to shenzhen at a cost of £400 ($780) so as he insisted I got that done on the 1st december 2006. Jan 07 arrived and he wouldnt collect the goods as he claims that it will cost him $5000 to collect goods from customs and he wont do this. After a few days of back and forth negotiations I thought that iwill go to shenzhen and collect the goods myself. Believe it or not I did not have to pay any customs charge as I had proved to the customs people that these goods are not for sale and are faulty goods, they opened the package and found that I was telling the truth! Well I thought whats all the hassle about. I took the stock to ted as david had apparently gone to beijing on business while the week I was in shenzhen. Back in the office ted told me and that david was a bad man and will soon be sacked from the company (just lies he is still there) and he would make sure that I get all my goods replaced by new stock, different newer models. With that agreed via email and verbally I returned back to the uk. When I got back to the uk I waited this month and also kept in touch with mr ted and he was always sweet in chatting on the phone and msn. By begining of march 07 I got the goosebumps that somthing is wrong and I knew that the spring festival was due so I contacted mr ted and he told me 'all my stock is ready but cannot ship because of spring festival' I got slightly suspicious and after the holidays I asked him but he just made excuses and put the phone down on me.in the meantime I was going on holidays abroad but I kept in touch with them. After I came back from my holidays a month later and given them alot of hard talking I managed to get 16pcs of goods but they were a cheaper model. Then another few months went by and I still kept in touch with mr ted that he would send me more goods! Eventually he did send me 4 pcs and by this time I understood what had happened to me (thay had just been stringing me along). By septomber 07 I was at my wits end and after a lengthy phone conversation with mr ted he told me they owe me nothing more as I was still around 20pcs. The value of the goods total owed was $6000 upon ralising this I had strong words with mr ted and he advised me that he knows nothing and that the best he could return is $1000 (how can I accept this when I paid £400 shipping return of stock approx £800 to goto shenzhen to release goods from customs) I told him I dont accept this daft offer and he told me that he now all of a sudden "had a boss whom they cannot contact because they don't know where he is" I told him this was a complete lie and that this is cheating and is not acceptable. I also had msn conversations with this guy and he claimed that "his company or his staff have not befooled me and its all my fault" I told him that its not my fault that he and his so called factory made faulty goods. Now im on his case and have made it my new years resolution that I want to ruin this man and his company. Although I would like to get my money back I would also like an extra $2000 for returning goods to him and my trip to shenzhen to clear customs. I would like $8000 back from this company. Beware there is also a 3rd person, mr michael he takes care of shipping, he is also very dangerous Just go into a search engine and put in aotop scam or aotop fraud an you will see results If you do get in touch with this company do ask them what happened to naveed, im sure they will get weak at the knees. The full company details are Aotop electroic industrial co., ltd Office : 304, a1 building, jiazhou haoyuan, binhe road, futian district, shenzhen, china post: 518048 Factory : building 3, shapu industrial road, songgang town, baoan district, shenzhen city, guangdong province. China Tel: [protected]-[protected] [protected] [protected] Fax : 86-755-[protected] http://www.aotop.com Overseas sales dept : Tel : 86-755-[protected],[protected] Fax : 86-755-[protected] [protected]@aotop.com, [protected]@aotop.com, [protected]@263.net [protected]@aotop.com Online service: Msn : [protected]@hotmail.com or [protected]@hotmail.com Skype: cnaotop Also advertise in alibaba (gold member), globalscources (verified member), made in china and many other portals As soon as this blog in online I will definetly send them this link so they can remember me and maybe, just maybe do something about it! Ps! One more thing, they told me in our first meeting in china that they were falun gong practitioners! Ooops have I just let the cat out of the bag? Thanks for reading