We were very disappointed with an install done by Steven Brown from CA gutter dome. His customer service skills are slim to none, don't expect any response when something goes wrong. I would not recommend this installer, and I would question the quality of the metal he is installing. Buyers be ware! For the price, this stuff should outlive other products on the market, but clearly it's not even an good as the junk we could have had installed by the big box stores. So disappointed, and will likely be in the market to have to have them all done again!