Such poor management the employees run the show, manipulating the want to be educated thinks he knows it all Jeff Lozon. Brother Joel follows behind meekly, picking up after and making excuses for the ineffectual management style demonstrated by Jeff Lozon. They will say anything to get their way or to cover up their mistakes. This includes hiring salespeople to work with nonfunctional software, and so dumb they put a salesperson on the road, promising travel allowances then not knowing how to implement same. Want to waste your time and get blamed to the customers for those idiotic managemen snafus. Run the other way! Unprofessional and high priced.