2 Nov, 2009 → by ClaimboUser807479
Boycott Cub Cadet And Carns Equipment of clearfield, PA

September 18, 2009 To whom it may concern, boycott Cub Cadet… I believe it was in 2004 I purchased a Cub Cadet 5252 compact garden tractor From Carns Equipment in Clearfield, Pennsylvania. I immediately trusted this dealer because of the Christian symbols all over his shop. This was my first mistake in what would turn into a nightmare emotionally and financially. The day I purchase the tractor I asked Jeffery Carns (Owner of Carns Equipment) if the "deal" he was offering me was one with revolving credit, He said no, which was a flat out lie. I didn't figure out until later that in fact, my GE line of credit with Carns Equipment was revolving credit. The FIRST 5252 tractor had several problems.1. The tractor couldn't do the simple jobs Jeffery Carns promised it could do.2. The throttle would vibrate back and lower the RPM's after running for several minutes.3. The forward and reverse linkage binds.4. The loader linkage fell apart due to faulty workmanship.5. One of the hydraulic lines burst within the first 100 hours of use due to faulty workmanship.6. The battery light would flash on and off sometimes, due to faulty electrical system.7. The tractor would overheat on a even 70 deg. Day, due to the engines inability to breathe.8. The transmission failed due to minimal and inadequate engineering at the factory.9. It took Jeffery Carns 1 year to get me a new brake pedal that did not hit the loader frame.After that Jeffery Carns said He would replace the tractor and transfer my attachments.1. The SECOND 5252 tractor, which was probably the same one as the first, broke the differential lock cable2. It had similar electrical problems.3. It had similar over heating problems.4. It had the same throttle problem.5. It had the same forward and reverse linkage problems.6. The transmission failed.I was given a THIRD, but this time a 4x4 5234, tractor with cruise control and a canopy on loan while my 5252 tractor was again being repaired. 1. Again this tractor had similar electrical problems.2. It had similar over heating problems.3. It had the same throttle problem.4. It had the same forward and reverse linkage problems.5. The front axle locked up. Jeffery Carns gave me a list of repairs and fix's the factory supposedly had made to the 5000 series tractors. It had no logo or Cub Cadet specific information and was probably written by Carns in a Word document. He stated that this was written as a tech bulletin by the factory. He promised that all my problems would be over if , I would get a FOURTH "new 4x4 5234 tractor" and he said "it would only cost me $20 more bucks a month" .Feeling as if I had no other options, I agreed. 1. This tractor has overheating problems.2. The fuel gauge works sometimes.3. The battery light will flash on sometimes.4. The glow plug light will work sometimes.5. The front axle started leaking from both lower king pin joints when it had 280 hours on it.6. Now at just over 300 hours, something broke in the front axle and or the transmission. My "new tractor" (FOURTH) which I am pretty sure is just the Previous 4x4 model 5252. I say this because, I noticed months later that there are marks where the cruise control cable was removed. When I pressure washed the axle to get a better look at the leaks, the paint flaked off of the #7 king pin bolts telling me the axle was previously repaired, but I never had this tractor in for service. As for the canopy, Jeffrey Carns had my FIRST tractor with no canopy mounting marks on the roll bar, which I believe he transferred over. All tractors were garaged when not in use. My current tractor is out of warranty and I have been begging for help from both the dealer and Cub Cadet for weeks. They refuse to help unless it means a considerable amount of more money for them by me being required to trade up and loosing most of the apx. $12,000 I paid for the Cub Cadet 5252DL with front end loader . I called other Cub Cadet Dealers in the area and they were honest and they told me things like1. "there were a lot of bad ones2. "their transmissions are a nightmare"3. "You're not the first guy to say "Jeff Carns is not a nice guy""4. "I have worked on my fair share of them"5. "Cub Cadet had a quiet recall and one winter took hundreds of new tractors back to the factory to replace the transmissions and they are marked with a sticker on the frame of a red or green X about the size of a quarter which sometimes peels off, that cost them a lot and that's why they sold out to YANMAR"6. "I don't accept those on trade"7. "I will trade it in and give you $2,500 if you upgrade to a SC2400" (that costs $12,900) This tells me Cub Cadet has failed to provide a quality product. I paid a lot for a brand new pile of junk (12,800). After only 300 hours is vertualy worthless. I can't afford to take another chance on Cub Cadet and Carns Equipment who practice Lying, Trickery, Using people, Money gouging their customers, providing poor customer service, and are unscrupulous. I have been back and forth with Jeffery Carns and he is hiding behind the Manufacturer with a smile on his face and when I call Bill Jakeway of Cub Cadet I am interrupted, distracted and talked over before I can get out my story or "diffused" and ignored. Now, I have been shut out there is no help, there are no return calls and I am being purposely Ignored. The rude spiteful treatment is inhumane. There is no customer service, Cub Cadet hides behind the dealers. Talking with these people yields no results, they are well trained in the art of deception. I am tired of the leaders of industry meeting together behind closed doors and conspiring to avoid responsibility. The Consumer Protection agency protects the big companies by making extremely difficult hoops to jump through. They want receipts and a perfect outline with names dates and time of each and every incident. I never collected such data. I thought I would be treated more civilized. I am not credible in their blind eyes. I am writing you because I have no choice but to keep the "Lemon Tractor" and just spread the word of my horrible experience with both Cub Cadet And Carns Equipment. The citizens of the United States of America are being wronged and punished by deceiving corporations and companies. The United States Government does not protect its citizens. I am ashamed to be a hard working American citizen. This world and society we live in is far from civilized. For the most part, It is a corrupt web of inhumane treatment where the leaders of government and industry get together to limit or take choices from everyone. The leaders in government are arrogant, ignorant, selfish and are not representing the people. The leaders of industry are excessively capitalistic, marxist, greedy and provide product or services with no quality or customer service. In many cases the two share each others crooked ethics. People live in fear of being reprimanded for speaking their minds. This out of control spiral will not get better because the leaders of industry and government will not be responsible and make this world a better place. I am ashamed to be in a world like this. I wish I were never born into this living ***. There are hundreds of thousands of people who share my opinion but we are used, we are not counted, we are left behind and we are disrespected. I wish people cared more. (added on 10-27-09)Tow weeks ago a representative called me to discuss the problem and promised to call in two days with a resolution offer. I have not heard from them since. They are playing games to try to stop me from complaining about poor product and service. They have been running away from me ever since I bought my *** tractor. Cub Cadet used to be a good company and now they are silver tongued two-faced ***-artists. Sincerely, Noel Dueker
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