I bought four laptops drom this company. All worked, thank u so much,,, 2 of them were dell 1 toshiba and 1 apple. The price was cheap. Their website is www.laptop- advantage.com I think these computers are refurbished. The laptops had dvd burnerain them and very good batteries. I also called my family in Vancouver and they bough 6 laptops. My grandfather also is thinking of buying many laptops from this company for his insurance agents. My sister wanted to get some apples laptops for her kids and she got them also from www.laptop-advantage.com for like $179.00 this company has amazing prices. Thanks again!,,,!