Never ever ever attempt to buy anything from this site. 3 days ago, I ordered a Canon XA10 from More4LessDigital.com having read most of the posts from this site. Reluctantly, I ordered a camera anyway knowing full well that it will probably not work out. Of course, I get an email 3 days after placing my order stating that I need to call them to verify my order. I've dealt with this before, basically, they want to up-sell me in order to make up for the huge discount. It's typically add on accessories, and other junk like a mini dv head cleaner, (this camera does not take tapes). This is how my first of 3 calls went: "Would you like a battery for this camera?" "No, just ship me the item I paid for." "Well, do you want the lens for this camera?" "The lens is not detachable. It's all in one. What do you mean?" "Well you obviously don't know anything about this camera or what it costs, do you want the lens or not!?" "If you're telling me, that you took the camera apart with a screw driver, and are only selling me 1/3 of the camera in pieces, then I'm telling you to take that screw driver, and shove it up your ###. Cancel my order." "$#*! you, I'm charging you anyway." Of course, I canceled my card, as planned, and Mr. Jonathan Weston, proprietor of More4LessDigital.com did not get a cent of my money. I believe this operation is out of FL or NY. If anyone has any other public information about this company and it's owners/operators, please post in this forum so that other more unlucky people can seek professional justice.