We used "A Pioneer Moving" to pack and move us. We received a quote for this full pack move which included $150 for packing supplies. When the movers did this move, the packing supplies alone constituted more than $1250 (and the final move cost exceeded $3000, compared to an estimated cost of approximately $1500). The foreman of the moving crew told us that given the companies per box prices (which were many times in excess of cost and which he said was how the company made most of its profits) all full pack moves have supply costs of far in excess of $150. While I understand that estimates cannot be exact, this estimate was off by a factor of more than 8 times the final cost; it was several times lower than the lowest cost of any other past customer (according to their own crew foreman). As such, in my view their quote was not given in good faith and was meant to mislead us. A Pioneer Moving Systems 13451 Damar Dr Philadelphia, PA 19116 [protected] Local [protected] Toll free [protected] Fax http://www.apioneer.com